Early Christian “doctors” were constantly contradicting themselves as to when exactly “the Lord” died or “ascended to heaven” after “he” was resurrected. Two of the most powerful early bishops, Irenaeus and Papias recorded that Christ lived to be very old, flatly denying as 'heresy' the Gospel stories as to his crucifixion at about thirty years of age.” In one of the Warsaw churches there is a statue of a very old Jesus. The Poles commemoratred this strange fact in a saying: “U fary jest Pan Jezus stary.”
Saint Irenaeus (Greek: Ειρηναίος), (2nd century AD - c. 202 AD) was Bishop of Lugdunum in Gaul, Roman Empire (now Lyons, France). He was an early church father and apologist, and his writings were formative in the early development of Christian theology. He was a disciple of Saint Polycarp, who was said to be a disciple of Saint John the Evangelist.
But unlike John who introduced to his gospel the philosophical demiurge (Logos), Irenaus preferred to speak of the Son and the Spirit as the "hands of God". The world has been intentionally designed by God.
In addition to reversing the wrongs done by Adam, Irenaeus thinks of Christ as "recapitulating" or "summing up" human life.This means that Christ goes through every stage of human life, from infancy to old age, and simply by living it, sanctifies it with his divinity. Irenaeus argues that Christ did not die until he was older than conventionally portrayed.
Ireenaeus' theology can be better u.nderstood in the context of Clement's letter to the Corinthian church, which is one of the oldest Christian documents still in existence outside the New Testament.
Saint Clement I, also known as Pope Clement I, Saint Clement of Rome, or Clemens Romanus, was the fourth Pope and Bishop of Rome and is considered the first Apostolic Father of the early Christian church. There are only two extant Greek texts of 1 Clement. The oldest is in Codex Alexandrinus, which dates to the 5th century.
Clement:
Proof of the Resurrection – rebirth of the Phoenix! Not the Risen Christ!
"Let us understand, dearly beloved, how the Master continually showeth unto us the resurrection that shall be hereafter ...
Let us consider the marvellous sign which is seen in the regions of the east, that is, in the parts about Arabia.
There is a bird, which is named the phoenix. This, being the only one of its kind, liveth for five hundred years; and when it hath now reached the time of its dissolution that it should die, it maketh for itself a coffin of frankincense and myrrh and the other spices, into the which in the fulness of time it entereth, and so it dieth.
But, as the flesh rotteth, a certain worm is engendered, which is nurtured from the moisture of the dead creature and putteth forth wings. Then, when it is grown lusty, it taketh up that coffin where are the bones of its parent, and carrying them journeyeth from the country of Arabia even unto Egypt, to the place called the City of the Sun; and in the day time in the sight of all, flying to the altar of the Sun, it layeth them thereupon; and this done, it setteth forth to return. So the priests examine the registers of the times, and they find that it hath come when the five hundredth year is completed.
Do we then think it to be a great and marvelous thing, if the Creator of the universe shall bring about the resurrection of them that have served Him with holiness in the assurance of a good faith, seeing that He showeth to us even by a bird the magnificence of His promise?"
– The Epistle of St Clement to the Corinthians
According to Tertullian (Demurrer Against the Heretics 36 and 32:2) Clement was ordained by Peter.
Stoicism- the Backbone of the New Testament
The Stoics translated the pheonix myth into their philosophical jargon.. Stoicism consider the universe on a path to confragration.The end of the human history will meet its doom in a massive conflagration that will cause all things to return to their original state, exactly like the phoenix does. What makes the association with Christianity more interesting is tha tag at the end of Cicero's note on the subject when he declares that there will b e a conflagration so that “once again a new world may be created and the ordered universe be restored as before” (Early Stoic Physics, SVF II, 593). The same philosophy lies behind Big Bang.
The Stoic teaching that fiery breath (pneuma) infusing the physical body reverberates in Jesus' saying that The kingdom of heaven is like unto leaven, which a woman took, and hid in three 'measures of flour, till the whole was leavened.' (Lk 13:20-21). The Stoics contrasted soul and matter. These two principles are the active and passive. Matter is identified with the passive principle. Its complement, the active principle, is reason (LOGOS) or God and is held to extend through matter providing it with motion (like leaven in flour), form, and structure. Both principles are bodily or corporeal principles, but neither exists in isolation.
Pneuma was the “creative fire” of the cosmos, a pyr technikon. It had the status of divinity, and was equated with both god and cosmic reason. Ex 32:24 reports miraculous birth of Golden Calf out of creative fire: `Let any who have gold take it off'; so they gave it to me, and I threw it into the fire, and there came out this calf." The Vedic god Surya was a solar bull. According to the Assyrians, the bull was born of the sun. There is a link between this philosophy and the words of Jesus reported by John 3:14 (See below).
According to Zen theology the Buddha is “the deity of fire who seeks fire”. The cloven tongues of fire that appeared on the Apostles’ heads symbolized their enlightenment (buddha lit. means the enlightened one) – they became “jamad-agni”, those who knew the identity of god and fire. The cloven tongues of fire on the Apostles’ heads are logically connected with Jesus words (Lk. 12:49): “I am come to send fire on the earth…” Here Christ confronts the Jewish belief in personal God with the atheistic impersonal Absolute of the Aryan religion. Brahman is a neuter word which means energy or fire, or sun.
Paul wrote in 1 Cor 15:16-17: “For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised: And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain...
On Feb. 9, 1989, A. Sakharov traveled to Italy where he spent more than an hour in private audience with the Pope John Paul II and received an honorary doctorate in astronomy from the University of Bologna. Rector of the University said on this occasion: “Not by chance has he (Sakharov) been placed in the company of Copernicus, of Galileo and of Giordano Bruno. Not by chance is the book chosen for the laureation of A. Sakharov The Dialogue of the Two Greatest Systems by Galileo: a choice meant to recall the spirit of liberty…” Or I would say, license to kill the remaining Jews...
In 1992 Pope John Paul said: “Galileo sensed in his scientific research the presence of the Creator who, stirring in the depth of his spirit, stimulated him, anticipating and assisting his intuitions.” (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo_Galilei)
Only disregard for teaching of the Bible and a blind admiration for the tradition of philosophical doctrines explains the view of Kepler that man’s ability to understand the mathematical law governing the universe enabled him to mirror God’s own thoughts and thus put him in special contact (mystical union) with the Creator of the Universe. (Cp. Jesus words: “My Father and I are one.” Jn. 10:30). Kepler's God was Plato's metaphysical God (Logos) who is a-historicist mathematician who eternally geometrizes.
The same God wrote for Galileo the Book of Nature. Galileo on the Book of Nature.“Philosophy is written in that very large book that is continually opened before our eyes (I mean the universe), but which is not understood unless first one studies the language and knows the characters in which it is written. The language of that book is mathematical and the characters are triangles, circles, and other geometric figures.” (Galileo Galilei: Pensieri, motti e sentenze; Florence, 1949) The Hindu Vishnu holds a disc or a rounded piece of gold in his hand. The Egyptian Ra wears a disc as a crown). Will future encyclicals be written in mathematical equations? The God on the front page of the Renaissance edition of the Vulgate wears a triangle on his head.
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Prof. A. Sakharov's Solar Phoenix
The Soviet physicist “proved” that the sun is an immortal god in his dogma of the “solar phoenix”, or strictly materialistic principle of the “spontaneous resurrection of energy (brahma) such as takes place in the sun's core.” And this scientific dogma explains the strange Latin expression "resurrexit” (“he has risen again”) which in nonscriptural references is used almost invariably and surrectio (“risen”) hardly ever. Resurrectio suggest natural process repeating itself time and again and not a “historical fact” as exemplified by the risen Jesus. The term resurrectio mirrors Plato’s cosmology which was cyclic, with periodic destruction and recreation of the universe in conjunction with various astronomical events. Sakharov wanted to undo Patriarch Nikon’s reform who in the 17th century dropped the part of the phrase concerning sanctification “by the Holy Spirit and by fire” because “fire” did not have sufficient textual warrant, and this offended those who believed that the Holy Sprit was Himself fire according to the Aryan dogma. Prof. Sakharov was a true Aryan “jamad-agni”, or a sage who knows the identity of god and fire.
And was it always said that the manner of Jesus' death was crucifixion? Apparently not. Here is what is written in Baraitha Bab. Sanhedrin 43a:
On the eve of Passover Yeshu was hanged. For forty days before the execution took place, a herald went forth and cried, "He is going forth to be stoned because he has practiced sorcery and enticed Israel to apostasy. Any one who can say anything in his favour, let him come forward and plead on his behalf." But since nothing was brought forward in his favour he was hanged on the eve of the Passover! - Ulla retorted: Do you suppose that he was one for whom a defence could be made? Was he not a Mesith [enticer], concerning him Scripture says, Neither shalt though spare, neither shalt thou conceal him? With Yeshu however it was different, for he was connected with the government for royalty [i.e., influential]. Our Rabbis taught: Yeshu had five disciples, Matthai, Nakai, Nezer, Buni, and Todah.
Saturday, September 13, 2008
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